tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post6401490128273890506..comments2023-06-20T02:25:36.578-07:00Comments on The Scholar's Stage: Things That Will Get You Thrown in a Chinese Political Education CampT. Greerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04621529800248145193noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-24553060111617826362018-09-29T02:16:49.682-07:002018-09-29T02:16:49.682-07:00The PRC is a totalitarian, communist state. What i...The PRC is a totalitarian, communist state. What is being done is the classic, quite standard socialist-totalitarian response to a perceived threat. This is only their actions at an early stage of dealing with that perceived threat.<br /><br />I am somewhat surprised that the Chinese Communist party has not already simply exterminated this (in their eyes) 'problematic' ethnic-religious Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-80778260855902035222018-09-20T20:26:21.227-07:002018-09-20T20:26:21.227-07:00I am with Fergus. No way if you go buy a tent and ...I am with Fergus. No way if you go buy a tent and a compass while wearing Arabic scripted shirts you are not going to be taken. That list of behavioral indicators decides who get's locked up indefinitely and who does not. Owning a tent or not owning the tent can very well be the difference between getting taken away and not being taken away--and in the broader context of the report this is T. Greerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621529800248145193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-9786026187199715572018-09-17T13:34:58.245-07:002018-09-17T13:34:58.245-07:00My point is don't exaggerate and don't dis...My point is don't exaggerate and don't distort. If the report says buying a whole load of different equipment can be considered reason for *suspicion* you shouldn't list each of these things individually and say you can be locked up indefinitely for buying them.<br /><br />Likewise, a whole collection of sudden changes in behaviour. (again: suspicion, not detention)<br /><br />robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-34265398566946137322018-09-16T20:25:23.997-07:002018-09-16T20:25:23.997-07:00rob said...
The HRW report doesn't say you can...rob said...<br />The HRW report doesn't say you can be locked up for owning a tent. It doesn't say you can be locked up for not smoking. It doesn't say you can be locked up for having Arabic script on a shirt. That's just a few of the things it doesn't say.<br /><br />Technically true (author should perhaps be more careful with wording/interpretation)...On Page 23... buying a Fergusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-64355689193517024622018-09-16T03:18:40.894-07:002018-09-16T03:18:40.894-07:00@David Patey:
while there might be a degree of &q...@David Patey:<br /><br />while there might be a degree of "experimentation" going on for repressive measures that can then be expanded to the rest of China, there is no way that anything this scale could be done throughout China, even if things get really, really bad... But you are correct that this campaign is not exactly "anti-Muslim". It's simply the only way that the Ji Xianghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03406727999722525339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-40459277026078594522018-09-16T00:18:25.192-07:002018-09-16T00:18:25.192-07:00Silva's correct. He's a Chinese who likes ...Silva's correct. He's a Chinese who likes to read on the NRx boards. But far more vicious than most of 'em. Met a few NrX in person and none are as extreme or violent as him. <br /><br />Rob-- Dunno about that. Each of those things are described as something that gets you at least on a watch list for reducation, or something Uyghurs admitted they were afraid to do lest they be picked T. Greerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621529800248145193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-29850374310716780072018-09-15T09:45:04.163-07:002018-09-15T09:45:04.163-07:00I don't see this as primarily anti-Muslim
This...I don't see this as primarily anti-Muslim<br />This is just a learning experience on how to control your population. They just picked the Muslims as they were a small minority and easily separated from the herd and controlled. Being a different race also sure helped to demonize them and besides the Han just wanted their land and resources anyway and the locals were in the way, kind of like Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04118258570613430513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-1790334000172270502018-09-15T09:23:32.630-07:002018-09-15T09:23:32.630-07:00Answering some questions above :
Now make a list ...Answering some questions above :<br /><br />Now make a list of what gets your throat slit in a Muslim country. Fortunately for us, it is thankfully brief. ---------- Duke of Qin .<br /> A list of getting a throat slit in Xinjiang China. (From Stories I have heard and Things I have seen )<br /> 1. Being a gov official give ,ppl who bribe you, more and better farming land. (Story from my policesome Uyghurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-57686269381572792922018-09-14T15:22:44.178-07:002018-09-14T15:22:44.178-07:00The HRW report doesn't say you can be locked u...The HRW report doesn't say you can be locked up for owning a tent. It doesn't say you can be locked up for not smoking. It doesn't say you can be locked up for having Arabic script on a shirt. That's just a few of the things it doesn't say.robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-32505517261838753442018-09-14T05:47:29.022-07:002018-09-14T05:47:29.022-07:00I've seen enough of Duke's posts elsewhere...I've seen enough of Duke's posts elsewhere to be convinced he's of Han descent - I think he said he lives somewhere Western. His commentary is completely standard Neoreaction (Western; don't think it'll amount to much even with a war - too nerdy) - I don't imagine he ever worked for the CCP.Silvanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-81265663973369084052018-09-14T00:57:30.186-07:002018-09-14T00:57:30.186-07:00Mr. Greer,
This report is spine chilling, but ...Mr. Greer,<br /><br /> This report is spine chilling, but still puzzling. Just what exactly is the immediate cause for the rush to build and operate those concentration camps? It is possible the CCP planned this some time ago all along, but the speed to me implies a cause that is much more recent. To my knowledge the CCP's oppression of the Tarim Basin has been gradual but never this Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-71434052888870272712018-09-13T01:53:00.028-07:002018-09-13T01:53:00.028-07:00C'mon anons, lets choose slightly identifying ...C'mon anons, lets choose slightly identifying pseudonyms so I can keep track of who is who. <br /><br />@anon #1--The list is my distillation of the 125 pages worth of interviews in the Human Rights Watch report linked to at the beginning of the post. I am adapting this list for publication in an international magazine @ the moment, and one of the things I note there is that these sort of T. Greerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621529800248145193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-4056794717760297652018-09-12T08:47:57.114-07:002018-09-12T08:47:57.114-07:00Thanks so much! I see some Nazi nationalist rants ...Thanks so much! I see some Nazi nationalist rants here in the comment section...yes, they have an army of such ppl in China. We, as Uyghurs who are suffering, not them! I have lost contact with my family and friends for a year to 8 months, we were told not to call, this is not a fucking joke. Someone who used local time was also sent... I do not want to see a fascistic, totalitarian, chauvinist Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-52776191080662005962018-09-12T02:35:40.132-07:002018-09-12T02:35:40.132-07:00I wonder if the Duke is one person, or number of p...I wonder if the Duke is one person, or number of persons employed by the Party to monitor this site and comment on it in a way pleasing to the Party. There is precedent for that. It happened over at Small Wars Journal some years ago with some Russians. It was very annoying.<br /><br />The breadth, depth and expense of the effort the Party is making to crush that which displeases it is chillingzednoughthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10393904003566355274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-45388395521266101542018-09-11T19:43:42.135-07:002018-09-11T19:43:42.135-07:00First, thank you for sharing this. Second, I don’t...First, thank you for sharing this. Second, I don’t know how did you get the 45 year age limit for hijab. But,from what I heard wearing hijab is all banned no matter what age you are. In fact, wearing a headscarf is kind of a problem to some extent as far as I know, not to mention hijab. Hijab is definitely a no-zone. Again, I am not 100% sure either. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-38951741076639382002018-09-11T18:53:17.078-07:002018-09-11T18:53:17.078-07:00I wonder if he is a weeb though, those aren't ...I wonder if he is a weeb though, those aren't criticisms of Islam that I've heard in the West. Though it does sound like something someone could cobble it together with some paranoia, a poor understanding of European history, non-differentiation between the Abrahamics, and a dosage of the usual praise on China one might hear from tech mags and the occasional anti-liberal article. Chinese Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-4882474806886167612018-09-11T18:40:03.353-07:002018-09-11T18:40:03.353-07:00This sounds almost too ridiculous to be true... ho...This sounds almost too ridiculous to be true... horrendous. You can get imprisoned for owning welding equipment and not smoking? <br />Could I ask if you have sources for this list? I'd like to share the post but want to be assured of the credibility of the content. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-18749519138074906092018-09-11T16:51:48.990-07:002018-09-11T16:51:48.990-07:00@Duke--
Not letting your last comment through. Do...@Duke--<br /><br />Not letting your last comment through. Don't think I will let *any* of your comments through in the future. Go find somewhere else to leave your drivel. I don't have time to deal with historically illiterate, angry, weaboo fascists. I honestly don't even know why you read this space to start off with. I am sure there are other places on the internet where readers T. Greerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621529800248145193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-36654310425717673972018-09-11T15:38:49.235-07:002018-09-11T15:38:49.235-07:00Someone really ought to kick the crap out of which...Someone really ought to kick the crap out of whichever bigwig China hawks decided to frame this as a Global Islam issue. Not helpful in the least.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-32787887890723929802018-09-11T12:54:41.309-07:002018-09-11T12:54:41.309-07:00Duke, you always use big words when you comment he...Duke, you always use big words when you comment here, but I swear its like you don't know the history of your own country. China's experience with Islam is long. The empires of days past got along fine without throwing people into prison for owning camping tents. <br /><br />...Much less *killing them all.* Thankfully your leaders are not as enamored with the 三光政策 style as you are. Maybe T. Greerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621529800248145193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-18157367668322109872018-09-11T12:30:55.045-07:002018-09-11T12:30:55.045-07:00There can be no peace with Islam because Islam wil...There can be no peace with Islam because Islam will not accept anything but more Islam. Thus any stability is mere illusion as what exists is not peace but rather a permanent state of tension always awaiting the next spark of rabid Islamic mob violence. The Chinese Communist Party, bless their hearts, have a profoundly deeper understanding of human psychology in many ways than liberals, in the Duke of Qinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-36863359386114915992018-09-11T12:29:28.202-07:002018-09-11T12:29:28.202-07:00You will probably block this message because it of...You will probably block this message because it offends you and your readers delicate sensibilities but at least you will know there exists people who aren't impressed by your pitiful Liberal orthopraxy.<br /><br />Now make a list of what gets your throat slit in a Muslim country. Fortunately for us, it is thankfully brief.<br /><br />Not submitting to Sunni Islamic orthodoxy.<br /><br />Duke of Qinnoreply@blogger.com