tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post2452427447912343845..comments2023-06-20T02:25:36.578-07:00Comments on The Scholar's Stage: West and East and How We Think T. Greerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04621529800248145193noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-83094202655559113362015-12-06T18:55:24.456-08:002015-12-06T18:55:24.456-08:00the book sets out with wrong assumptions, or more ...the book sets out with wrong assumptions, or more accurately a cursory look at history. first India had a profound effect on Asia because of Buddhism, it is very difficult to say that people like the Chinese would think differently from Europeans without such an effect. there are those who strongly argue that Greek philosophy itself was started because of the Persian empire linking the Greek and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-70176470490483921982014-06-05T06:00:56.484-07:002014-06-05T06:00:56.484-07:00"Easterners aim for social harmony. Asians sh..."Easterners aim for social harmony. Asians shy away from disagreement and contradiction. Westerners revel in it." <br /><br />With all the political correctness, I'm not sure if this is true. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-30980979247703817202013-04-07T09:23:22.361-07:002013-04-07T09:23:22.361-07:001. I suppose it is all a matter of taste. I have n...1. I suppose it is all a matter of taste. I have not had nearly as many meaningful interactions with Europeans as SwissPenelope, so I can make no judgements there. But at sundry times and places I have had daily and/or continual interactions with East Asia, Southeast Asians, Indians, and Latin Americans. There are certain things about the American psyche (and to a certain extent, the Latin T. Greerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621529800248145193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-1920356671730424112013-04-07T05:38:35.413-07:002013-04-07T05:38:35.413-07:00I was relieved that you made reference to "Th...I was relieved that you made reference to "The WEIRDest people on Earth" in this interesting article. <br /><br />As an English-speaker who has lived in South Africa, the UK, Ireland and Switzerland, I find most of the discourse about "East-West cultural differences" surreal, precisely because they assume the Western norm is the individualistic, over-confident seeker for the swisspenelopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01444387474178915007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-55372795377967831792013-04-03T18:54:04.060-07:002013-04-03T18:54:04.060-07:00Thanks for the passages. I think he is saying on p...Thanks for the passages. I think he is saying on p.134 pretty much what you suggest. Hard to judge a book on the basis of excerpts, of course, so I'll refrain from further comment on this pt.<br /><br />Your post was interesting: I think many of his experimental results that you report conform to the somewhat expected Sinosphere=more community/group- oriented/contextual, Anglosphere=more LFChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13551197682770555147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-12294521605754777982013-04-03T15:17:53.163-07:002013-04-03T15:17:53.163-07:00@LFC-
"What about Chinese and esp. Islamic a...@LFC-<br /><br /><i>"What about Chinese and esp. Islamic achievements in mathematics, e.g., long before the scientific revolution?"</i><br /><br />He addresses the issue, though not in great depth. He poses as one of his opening questions:<br /><br />"Why would the ancient Chinese have excelled at algebra and arithmetic but not geometry, which was the forte of the Greeks? Why do T. Greerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621529800248145193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-24888800487529160452013-04-03T12:34:28.310-07:002013-04-03T12:34:28.310-07:00correction 1st paragraph:
don't know much abou...correction 1st paragraph:<br />don't <i>know</i> much about thatLFChttp://howlatpluto.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-27732391173771970672013-04-03T12:32:06.288-07:002013-04-03T12:32:06.288-07:00Re Nisbett's argument about the Scientific Rev...Re Nisbett's argument about the Scientific Revolution as conveyed in the post:<br /><br />One need not be an historian of science to find this dubious in the extreme. What about Chinese and esp. Islamic achievements in mathematics, e.g., long before the scientific revolution? And I'm reasonably sure there were 'Eastern' achievements in the experimental sciences too, though I don&#LFChttp://howlatpluto.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-17590744541555150582013-04-02T23:33:25.675-07:002013-04-02T23:33:25.675-07:00@Ishaan-
"Basically, I thought uncommonly h...@Ishaan- <br /><br /><i>"Basically, I thought uncommonly high education / wealth results in uncommon culture. I thought that as education and resources increase, individualism increases as well, and that this was a process which could happen in any country. "</i><br /><br />The "We Are Not the World" article placed in the "further reading" section of my post T. Greerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621529800248145193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-25231170033629687362013-04-02T15:48:56.541-07:002013-04-02T15:48:56.541-07:00"The individualists are the outlier"
We...<i>"The individualists are the outlier"</i><br /><br />Well, my notion was that WEIRDness stems from education (especially literacy), lack of scarcity, and other features of information economies. Yes, Individualists are outliers...but I had chalked that up to western levels of education and wealth being global outliers. <br /><br />Basically, I thought uncommonly high education / Ishaannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-913272298075767552013-04-02T15:10:10.550-07:002013-04-02T15:10:10.550-07:00@Ishaan-
Several years ago I highlighted a video ...@Ishaan-<br /><br />Several years ago <a href="http://scholars-stage.blogspot.com/2009/11/video-of-day-231109-east-vs-west-myths.html" rel="nofollow">I highlighted a video by Devdutt Pattanik</a> that focused on the differences between the Western worldview and the Indian "Eastern" world view. His portrayal of the "relative" Indian was, IMHO, is spot on. <br /><br /><i>"IT. Greerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621529800248145193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7378807093271153119.post-32039757435063612332013-04-02T11:56:15.204-07:002013-04-02T11:56:15.204-07:00I've noticed that although most of these studi...I've noticed that although most of these studies are done with East Asian vs. Western populations, many of the results could generalize to India as well - less individualism, more hierarchy, more conformist, more context driven, more consensus based, more emphasis on social bonds. I don't know much about Eastern Europe, but by my limited experience this is true for some Eastern European Ishaannoreply@blogger.com